Resye on His EP Dialectique Des Songes, Life During The Pandemic, And Experimental Music
With Dialectique des songes, a four-track EP released on May 10, 2020, Resye has showcased an excellent aura of sound strongly influenced by musique concrète. Every track in Dialectique des songes sounds authentic, exploratory and mostly nostalgic. We sat down with the France based artist to ask him about Dialectique des songes, his artistic influences, life during pandemic and experimental music.
Anuranon Magazine: Hello Resye, how are you doing during this time of pandemic?
I’m fine. Life has been quite complicated lately, but things are getting in order right now.
When did you start writing/producing music – and what or who were your early passions and influences?
I started messing around with ableton in 2013. I used to love breakcore, footwork, digital hardcore, hiphop and idm. Dj Rashad had a big influence on me for years.
For most artists, originality is first preceded by a phase of learning and, often, emulating others. What was this like for you? How would you describe your own development as an artist and the transition towards your own voice?
I started messing around with breaks and stuff. I didn’t use sequencers for at least a year. I was only playing notes on controllers and sending stuffs to my friends. Things were quite fucked up at that time. Then i went to live in London. I was into footwork, electro, grime and jungle. I was more focused on my music but still not doing it well. It needed a lot of time because I don’t really like tutorials. So I just produced, produced, and produced; footwork, jungle, grime, dubstep (but oldschool dubstep without wobbles haha) and managed to get things out of the computer that didn’t sound too bad but I still had a lot of work to provide.
What do you personally consider to be the incisive moments in your artistic work and/or career?
I like to play DJ sets. I played at a squat party last year it was quite funny because my set was messed up. Playing noise and then electro, jungle and neo-folk. But people told me that it was good so I’d like to do more!
How has your musical journey progressed over time?
I discovered Mark Fell’s work in 2015, then got into the experimental scene of the place I used to live in in France at that time. I wanted to combine experimental music such as noise and ambient which I love and more classic rhythm patterns that i appreciate as well.
Dialectique des songes is strongly influenced by musique concrète, right?
Yes, I went to La Maison de la Radio in Paris a few times, where there’s a big Acousmonium. I listened to Pierre Schaeffer, Pierre Henry and Bernard Parmegiani there. I was really impressed by the quality of their work considered those were produced almost 50 years ago and they still sound really innovative today.
How do you make use of technology? In terms of the feedback mechanism between technology and creativity, what do humans excel at, what do machines excel at?
I used to play bass guitar and I did not like it too much. I consider the computer as an instrument. It does what I tell it to do. It excels at keeping in time, doing what I want it to. For me humans excel at creativity and perseverance, but computers can also help to get more creative as there is such a big variety of tools that I can use. Think about granular synthesis, samplers etc. Both aspects are really complementary. You need to find the right tools and techniques. I’m really glad for technology and I’m happy to be able to use it. I mostly use ableton live to create and Reaper to mix my projects. A lot of VSTs, a controller and a zoom H6 to record sounds.
There are many descriptions of the ideal state of mind for being creative. What is it like for you?
I don’t really have an ideal state. I can feel really bad and produce music that I appreciate or feel good and be able to create as well. I do jams almost everyday, sometimes just to jam and play it loud for hours. I try to arrange projects anyway but I don’t care if I release something or not. Sometimes a good idea comes up and I start to work. Sometimes I don’t sleep and produce during the night or I can do very short nights and wake up early to produce music all day long.
What is your philosophical beliefs in regards to the importance of experimental/techno music. What do you think this genre provides to the listeners that other forms of music don’t/can’t?
Well it allows people without much musical background to produce music and it’s quite revolutionary for me.
I also understand the criticisms about the whole technical aspects, but I’m quite stuck between two positions. On one hand i love technology badly and on the other hand I find it problematic on so many levels. I mean, techno is conforming to liberalism in so many ways. That is kinda problematic. Not questioning anything though.
As a listener, I think that electronic music can carry innovation, intriguing sounds than other genres can’t provide. Both experimental and dance music still have a lot of potential to grow. I’m listening to artists such has Truska who represent the future of club music in my opinion. He’s able to mix good things from both worlds and give some nice results.
Do you think that creative decisions are usually shaped by cultural differences even when it’s the same genre of music?
With internet, cultural differences tend to decrease in my opinion. If you get into a scene via internet you can dig a lot and get a lot of influences from there. A genre such as breakcore has grown up with the growth of internet and it became a worldwide genre. A niche genre but still worldwide.
The relationship between music and other forms of art, like painting, photography, video art and cinema has become increasingly important over the decades. Do you feel that music relates to other senses as well than hearing alone?
Sure, I also did video clips but music is in my eyes the most powerful form of art. Even when it’s completely abstract it can mean so much and provide so many emotion than paintings or cinema will never able to give me! I’d like to do more videos in the future but I want to focus on music. Music itself is enough in my opinion!
Do you think it’s important that artists don’t feel constrained by a genre or expectation of a genre?
Sure, there’s a lot of genres that I love, but i don’t want to be stuck anywhere. I love old school happy hardcore from Netherlands, grindcore, crust; anything, as long as the vibe is good. But I also love dub, musique concrète as a listener. I don’t belong to any scene and wouldn’t want to either. I like to be able to get in a mosh pit on a Friday night and an ambient show on Saturday. It’s the same thing when it comes to producing ! I try to take as much freedom as I can.
I would not like to have an ethos that belong to a scene neither as a listener nor as a producer. But I understand people who do belong to a scene or a genre and represent themselves within and who carry those scenes.
Tell us about creating Dialectique des songes. What was your sound creating process in getting it all together? What was the motif behind the mood of the EP?
I started recording sounds in my mother’s garden, in a workshop where i used to play as a child. There’s a lot of mess to play with in there. Car pieces, tools, things I can break, etc.. Then i started modifying and working on samples in order to be able to process those. Then I jammed, arranged pieces and mixed the tracks. I use a lot of automation. Basically I just tortured samples, used a lot of resonators, effects and automation!
I also do more typical electro music but I wanted to push things further and to get away from it as much as possible. I really wanted to combine different influences in order to create an hybrid form of music, not just elitist stuff and electro. I wish that people who don’t listen to experimental or musique concrète can appreciate my pieces, even if I know I don’t have a big audience. It is a real wish.
What does this EP mean to you?
It means a lot to me. I feel like I’m just starting my musical journey right here as I only begin to go where I’d like to. I mean I just started producing the music I want to listen to and I know I still have a lot of work to do to get to another level but now I know I’m able to do that! It’s not just constraint, it’s also a pleasure discovering new techniques and being able to progress all the time.
Is there anything you are working on right now? What can we expect from you in 2020 and 2021? Do you have any more projects coming up?
I’m writing poems in French. Maybe I’ll translate those someday! Otherwise I’m doing jams, started working on a project with a friend but he’s quite busy so I don’t know if we’ll push it further !